Meteorologist Kevin Martin

Pay for your plastic recycable shopping bags that won’t biodegrate until 9999. What happened to good old fashioned paper bags, oh no we have to cut down too many trees… PS plant some more!!! God knows we need lots of trees. Large industries are making us a laughing stock and blaming us the consumer by making us feel guilty and then conjuring up another idea to play on our emotions so we can spend more money.

Now where is this climate change fiasco going? Probably new laws will be made, more control over population, especially if only selected things are taught at schools…scary.
What about the developing countries? Why are they still developing? I thought that with all the donations, all the help, all the people, all the medical teams thoughout these last few decades that have contributed to giving everyone the right to sustainablity that we would be at least generous to give some continuous power to medical centres so they can turn on the lights and fridge on at the same time!!!
Think, think, think…when the climate starts getting cooler which it will, (the climate has been even hotter before)so it still could go up, and we are older and wiser don’t forget to tell your children what you have learned.

Here are some points that do not add up in the article and film:
1. there is a comment in the text and in the film related to the first graph that says after 1940 three (in film: 4) decades of temp drop were recorded. I can see a maximum of 10 years of cooling. Are these inaccurate drawings? if so, on what is the article based?
2. In the film they say that if a global warming is to happen, the biggest temp differences should be visible in the upper atmosphere. If we are talking about the human impact on global warming we refer to the CO2 green house gas. This gas is heavier than O2 and it stays at low altitudes. So the upper atmosphere is not influenced by CO2 so we cannot see abnormal temperatures caused by humans there.
3. Marius, your last post says: “It is well known that volcanoes emit much less CO2 than human activities”. The movie you posted says the contrary at min 24.37 . Why did you post it if you don’t believe what it says?
4. There is an old man in the movie that says “CO2 is not pollution. We are all made of CO2.” I would like to ask him. O2 is no pollutant. But if atmosphere was 70% O2 would people still live?

The only real swindle here is the “documentary” you referred to. It has been reported that they lied to many of the participants involved in order to get more provocative responses from them and many have complained since and withdrawn any support for the programme.

Scientific American recently had an article that refutes most of the points that skeptics raise along with a article from 1959 that warns of global warming due to increased CO2 from human activities.

“Climategate” has little effect on the science either since much of the research is totally independent of their results.

I won’t go into any details here – because you can start looking for them in the very wiki-articles posted here.

BUT: first of this is no new deal. Most scientist agree that sunspots elevate temperature on earth but does this really matter?

We began not a very short time ago to burn things that took millions of years to build up. By growing those trees and plants, that we now use to feed our enourmous energy hunger, – aka oil, bound a LOT of CO2 and even if CO2 is not the worst (the worst indeed is steam) it is one of the worst gases that heat up our athmosphere.

So now just use plain old logic: we set free huge amounts of CO2 that was reduced over very long times in a very very short time – and you still think this won’t have any impact? come on

On the other hand – sorry to say but it’s true – there are a lot of organisations and countries (the US included) who are interested in “cooling” down the debate – there is a lot of money involved.

And finaly: the fact, that there are of course scientists who want to push their careers in any possible way – even by faking facts. Doesn’t imply that the big picture is wrong – it just states that the tiny spot in this picture created by those persons MAY be wrong.

Greetings